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Poster: Jack o' Roses Date: Mar 12, 2013 9:03am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Phil & Ned Live!

http://archive.org/details/paf1975-11-22.early.124127.aud.flac16

Instant love or ...dislove

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Poster: deadpolitics Date: Mar 12, 2013 10:04am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Phil & Ned Live!

I was kind of hoping this was a news update for an upcoming show at Terrapin Crossroads or something. Is Ned Lagin still with us on Spaceship Earth? He seems to have disappeared from the pop world quite a while ago...

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Poster: segan63 Date: Mar 12, 2013 10:43am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Phil & Ned Live!

Maybe that's a good question for Phil tomorrow night... #weirhere

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Poster: deadpolitics Date: Mar 12, 2013 11:08am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Phil & Ned Live!

Indeed! Where does one submit the questions?

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Poster: segan63 Date: Mar 12, 2013 11:20am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Phil & Ned Live!

on Twitter with hash tag #weirhere I would also include @TRIStudios to be sure it is received.

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Poster: deadpolitics Date: Mar 12, 2013 1:10pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Phil & Ned Live!

Not gonna sign up for Twitter just for this question... but you're welcome to do it if you feel so inclined! Address it from the Internet Archive Grateful Dead Forum so that we all get a shout out if they choose the question. Thanks!

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Poster: segan63 Date: Mar 12, 2013 4:46pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Phil & Ned Live!

I may do that. However, they are now focusing the discussion a bit towards Pigpen due to it being the 40th anniversary of his death.

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Poster: deadpolitics Date: Mar 12, 2013 5:41pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Phil & Ned Live!

That makes sense. I'm sure a lot of people are interested in hearing Phil and Bob's insight on Pigpen's life and art.

We may be able to weave in Ned Lagin into the discussion this time around by asking how adding this new keyboard player affected the dynamic with Pigpen. Ned was sitting in with the Grateful Dead in early 1970, which is during the heyday of Pipgen's reign.

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Poster: user unknown Date: Mar 12, 2013 10:58am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Phil & Ned Live!

from available online information, it appears that Mr. Lagin is still among the living

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Poster: light into ashes Date: Mar 12, 2013 11:33pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Phil & Ned Live!

70 minutes of nonstop Phil & Ned drones, without the slightest catering to the needs of impatient listeners! Awesome. A (small) audience even claps at the end!

Actually it's not ALL drones. A lot of it sounds uncannily like Star Wars sound effects. I could swear I heard R2D2 chattering away in there.

There's an interesting review in the files, too.

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Poster: user unknown Date: Mar 12, 2013 11:42am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Phil & Ned Live!

one for the haters...6 minutes 43 seconds

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhhguK36u0I

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Poster: capsgd Date: Mar 13, 2013 11:52am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Phil & Ned Live!

I saw a Phil/Ned in Philly in what seemed like a intermission, the house light were on, and people were milling around talking loudly, I felt sorry for Ned, but to be honest it didn't impress me, it seemed boring and dated, even in 74' ...there were MANY more interesting electronic recordings around-
in the 50s Edgar Varese's "Poem Electronic"far surpassed this.The soundtrack to "Last Exit"
Columbia/Dartmouth Electronic competition..
"Zapple" by George Harrison- his knob twisting was more entertaining/trippy
early Tangerine Dream's "Alpha Centura" "Atem"

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Poster: segan63 Date: Mar 15, 2013 2:32am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Phil & Ned Live!

capsgd, thanks for turning me on to the George Harrison Electronic Sound stuff. Definitely more interesting than 1975 Phil and Ned. However, I think that Phil and Ned really hit there stride in 73/74. Check out there stuff from 11/28/73 on Sugarmegs. It may be mislabeled, but it is from around that time. Definitely more varied and interesting(if not haunting) than 1975

http://tela.sugarmegs.org/

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Poster: light into ashes Date: Mar 15, 2013 12:19pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Phil & Ned Live!

11/28/73 was Jerry & Mickey, not Phil & Ned!

However, the 11/28/73 file on the Archive includes a recording of 6/6/75, which was Phil, Ned, Jerry, Mickey, and David Crosby:
http://archive.org/details/gd73-11-28.sbd-seastones.finney.968.sbefail.shnf

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Poster: segan63 Date: Mar 15, 2013 12:39pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Phil & Ned Live!

Thanks LIA, I didn't know about the Jerry/Mickey stuff, but the notes on Sugarmegs indicate that the file was an amalgam of different performances.

I also liked the Seastones from 7/31/74 better than the 11/22/75 Phil and Ned stuff.